Hey folks, I'm very pleased to give you an interview with the author of SHATTERED DREAMS. It's a book we've reviewed twice here on the Booknest.eu with both of us loving it.
1. So, tell us about the Drangar series?
It all started out on a day long in the past. No, seriously, it did. I wanted to hang with some friends, accompanying them to one of their fabled cons. Those cons, for me at least, were all about partying, but I also wanted to contribute to the shared world. So Drangar Ralgon was born, and I wrote a bunch of connected short stories about his adventures. These short stories were my first steps into writing. All in German back then.
Fast forward a few years later, and I wondered why I had trouble finding the correct words. Writers need to read a lot, and I did! Then it hit me, I read everything in English. Primarily because most translations sucked at that time. One short story that made people laugh later (a story which wasn't really that good, but hindsight is a strange animal) and I knew that I had to continue writing in English.
At first I wrote in the style found in the books I was reading at the time, mostly omniscient narrator and all that heroic stuff. The plot followed the short stories, but given the scale of an actual novel and the lack of restrictions due to not writing in a shared world, it quickly expanded. But I wasn't happy, neither with myself nor with the writing. Me and it lacked focus. The first part of solving that particular puzzle came in form of George R.R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire. When I read those books, I knew how I wanted to write. What I lacked now was actually the motivation of writing again. To say I had hit a slump would be a grave understatement, I was depressed, had suffered throughone breakdown already, and by 2007 the second breakdown was at hand. My best friend kicked me until I went to therapy.
As part of that therapy, I rewrote the entire first novel in three months, and then, with the aid of another friend, honed what would become Shattered Dreams.
Not to sound too conceited, but in a way the story, Drangar's story, is as much about self-discovery and healing of one's spirit as it is about people and swords and magic, or people with swords and magic. In the beginning the protagonist is a wreck. Ironically enough, that part has existed since the very beginning, my alter ego was damaged, only I didn't know I was just as damaged. Over the course of the story he gets better.
Sure, there's more to it, but you have to read the book to find that out.
2. What separates the Drangar series from other epic fantasy about there?
I didn't want to write a "genre book" per se. Sure, it's fantasy, but I want it to appeal to non-fantasy readers as well. Even with GRRM's books, the base appeal is to fantasy fans, with the hurdle of others picking up the novels lowered only by the TV series. I tried to focus on people rather than mythical dangers and such. And given that the non-fantasy-people who have read it, love it, I guess I succeeded there.
While writing the story, I did not read any fantasy. Instead I read every other kind of fiction, and some books for research, of course. That was and is intentional, since I do not want my prose to "echo" any other fantasy author's. No idea if it's bad or good, but it's mine, my voice, my prose. Another thing, it's small, contained, the story literally takes place in an area smaller than most states. Since I focus on characters, I figured that territorial intimacy is preferable. Shit that happens, happens in the neighborhood and affects people.
3. Who are the protagonists?
Drangar, a mercenary turned shepherd who tries to avoid facing his past
Kildanor, one of 24 Chosen of Lesganagh, the Lord of Sun and War
Ealisaid, the last Wizardess due to the fact that no one woke her from hibernation
Jesgar, a young man who took up thieving as a hobby
Anneijhan, short Anne, a noble warleader with the enemy army
Mireynh, the invaders' High General
Lightbringer, a being who has had her fingers on the tillers of history for millennia
Lloreanthoran, an elven mage tasked with retrieving forgotten artifacts
Bright-Eyes, Lloreanthoran's squirrel familiar
4. Could you describe your world for us?
I like classical mythology, Greek, Roman, Celtic. In each of these the world is created by deities who then rule over the thing. There are no differing religions or gods, because, well, it's their world. Basically I go with what I call creation fact. The world as the people know it, was created by the gods, no other deities are present, and since the people have one origin there is, literally, no difference in outward appearance, with variations according to geography (i.e. closer to the equator and skin color will grow darker)
There is only one language. The former masters of the world, the elves, have all but vanished, leaving behind a humanity that tries to figure itself and the elven technologies out.
The analogy that I chose is: Elves = Romans at the height of Empire, humans = Dark Ages. I didn't want the all too generic mix of technologies one finds in far too many games, be it D&D or WoW. I basically sat down and wrote out my creation fact, how the world came into being, added the obligatory battles between various godly factions and all that. There are loads of familiar things in this unnamed world, but I strive to take clichés and turn them inside out. It's a world in turmoil, and no side is good or evil.
5. Do you prefer high fantasy or low fantasy?
High fantasy, to me, screams Dragonlance or Lord of the Rings, and I found the older I get the less I care for it. For the stereotypical good vs. evil stuff, I mean. When I look at Conan or Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, I see low fantasy. And while I like the yarns REK and Leiber spun, I think I prefer an amalgam of both, with a serious influx of realism. That's what I like about A Song of Ice and Fire, on the surface it's gritty realism, and the deeper you dig, the more fantastic it becomes, without losing the grit.
6. Would you describe your book as grimdark?
Hah! To be perfectly honest, I didn't know about grimdark when I wrote it. I read GRRM and considered it well written, realistic fantasy. I'm just gonna say: "I consider it a damn good story" because in the end the rest, the trappings if you will, are negligible. To paraphrase a famous German movie producer: "A book is good when it's good." In the end that is the only thingthat matters.
7. What do you think of the grimdark phenomenon?
Realism is always a good thing, and I think that every piece of fiction should be realistic, within the logical confines of the world. Grimdark is a counter movement to the heroic fantasies like Shannara, D&D-world novels, and such. It's necessary. Our world has changed, and in the wake of the end of the Cold War, lines have become blurred. Sure, we got moronic and sociopathic leaders, but more and more people realize that the "Russian" or the "American" or "French" or "Chinese" or "German" are, all in all, just people.
Fantasy and Science Fiction can easily adapt to such societal "revelations." But I think that brutality for brutality's sake or shock value just to be called "grimdark" is abhorrent, similar to torture porn. If a novel's cast of characters just consists of psychopaths and sociopaths, people who have no inherent redeemable qualities, who cannot by their very nature have redeemable qualities, a reader won't connect… or if they do, I wonder what kind of people they really are.
Give me realism any day of the week. Have people swear, sweat, fuck, fight, love, lose, kill, die all you want, but if you're just out to shock people or outdo someone else, that's not for me.
8. Did you do a lot of research to create your world?
I'm still researching things. To truly portray a lived-in world, you need to know how people lived in the times similar or close to similar to what you are describing. You need to know a bit of everything, basically. Of course, it does help if you live in a town whose oldest buildings were erected before the Thirty Years War, and have two castles and one castle ruin in your neighborhood. But those locales are only visual aids, the actual research comes from historians and archaeologists, of course. Applying real world history to a fantastic world, replacing certain things with fantasy elements, that is the fun part of one's world development. And understanding the evolution of things, be it architecture or weaponry, just makes things, again, more realistic.
9. Do you have a favorite character? If so, why?
Drangar. He's been with me for over twenty-five years, and yet I discover new things about him whenever I write from his perspective. He and I are a lot alike, and, I guess, we both do our healing together.
10. How has fan reception been so far?
So far. The people who have read Shattered Dreams love it, for the most part. Some complain that it isn't a self-contained story but the first book of three, but that's complaining on a very sophisticated level. Understandable, but I couldn't cram the entire story into one book of well over 1000 pages.
11. Do you have any other authors you want to give a shout out to?
Ed Greenwood: for the support and the blurb, and for pointing out that "Hell" is a shitty term to use in a non-Judeao-Christian fantasy setting.
And Charles Phipps: for the fun conversations, both in Candlekeep and Facebook, and the support. Thanks, friend!
12. What can we expect from you next?
I think I will have some tea. Hehe, other than that I am pondering whether to finish Drangar's saga first, or start something different, smaller, more fast paced to maybe attract an agent with. I guess the many viewpoints are too much for an agent to sell as newcomer author.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: there just aren't enough pirates in fantasy. But author Rob J. Hayes is trying his best to remedy that lack of nautical naughtiness, and he's doing a fine job. His pirate duology, Best Laid Plans, is one of the most entertaining pirate adventures I've come across, and I was thrilled when he agreed to an interview. I hope you enjoy the interview below, and that your thirst for piracy will be quenched by Rob's creation.
First of all, thanks for agreeing to this interview, Rob!
When did you first decide you wanted to become an author, and how did you get into writing?
ROB: Well I've always been a bit of a dreamer. Or probably a lot of a dreamer really. Even at school I was that kid who spent half his time staring out a window imagining orcs and elves doing battle in the playground. But it wasn't until I was about 15, I think, that I actually started writing stories down rather than just running them through my head. I remember I had just finished reading Aurian by Maggie Furey and I thought “I could give this a go”. Of course back then I had no real idea what plot or characterisation really meant, and my sentence structure was pretty much a wall of text. I like to think I've improved a little along those lines.
It wasn't until I was 26 that I actually decided to sit down and write some real books and try to make a career out of it. I was pursuing a career in Zoology at the time and I spent 3 months living on a desert island in Fiji, diving down to the reefs and cataloguing the sea life. There was quite a lot of downtime so I started writing stories in a journal, all focusing on a world I'd been building for quite a long time. I think I wrote 2 short stories, and then started my first book in that little leather bound journal. And 1 of those short stories, the Sword of the North, actually made it to print in my anthology collection, The Bound Folio. The other short and the full book did not, they are forever consigned to my not good enough folder. Once I got back from Fiji I made writing my priority and focused on that same world which has since become First Earth.
Fabulous answer. Living in Fiji sounds like the experience of a lifetime! You mentioned your career in Zoology, and I know that's what you studied at university. Does that knowledge come into play very often in your work? If so, can you give us an example?
ROB: Oh it definitely does, though rarely in major ways. I like to throw fantasied up creatures into my books here and there. In The Ties that Bind there's a spider the size of a small dog that can jump and spit venomous webbing. Both are traits that appear in spiders in real life, but never in the same species. I cheekily combined those traits and then blew the spider up from the size of a finger nail to the size of a dog. Then I decided it would sit on the shoulder of a pirate instead of something more mundane like a parrot, and that much of the pirate ship's rigging would be made from spider silk instead of rope. I'm not sure I'd ever have come up with that idea if not for my background in Zoology. There's a few more examples hidden throughout my books as well so I definitely put the knowledge to some use, even if that use is giving people nightmares about giant spiders.
Well, you've made me a fan of giant man-eating centipedes that like to be worn as belts, as well!
What inspires your stories? And what comes to you first: plot, characters, setting, or something else entirely?
ROB: I think I take a lot of inspiration from books, films & TV, and computer games. Often times something I see or read will just spark off my imagination and an idea is born. I remember watching the 3rd Pirates of the Caribbean film and there's a scene towards the end of the film where we see a fleet of pirates ships and then on the horizon we see an even bigger fleet of navy ships. I watched that and thought “This is gonna be epic!”... Well it wasn't. It was a massive let down to be honest and I remember thinking “I can do better than that.” So now there's a few big naval battles in Best Laid Plans.
As to what comes first, it changes a lot from story to story. My main 3 characters from The Ties that Bind all existed for quite a while before I found a story for them. And on the complete flip side the story for Best Laid Plans existed before most of the characters. The setting for them both has been around even longer as I've been building First Earth for about 17 years at this point. I think I'm quite an organic writer, which works for me, but I often get to the end of a story and honestly have no idea how I managed to pull it all together.
I completely understand what you mean by feeling let down by naval battles in film, and you most definitely don't let readers down with your naval battles in Best Laid Plans!
You've already written multiple series. Where would you suggest a new reader start?
ROB: Chronologically speaking The Ties that Bind trilogy takes place first. However both that and the Best Laid Plans duology are designed to be read independently of each other, and my piratical books are newer and shinier so I'd say start with Where Loyalties Lie. There's a few crossovers in terms of characters and locations but little in the way of spoilers from one series to the next so it really is OK to read them in any order.
Good to know!! As someone who started with Where Loyalties Lie, I thought it was a fabulous introduction to the world of First Earth.
Do you have a favorite character you've created?
ROB: I don't think I have a definite favourite, but I do have some who I really love writing. Elaina Black was a good example of just that. I loved how fierce she is mixed in with some fairly detrimental daddy issues; she was a joy to write and I think it's because of that that she grew into a much larger part than I had originally intended for her. Another good example would be Anders Brekovich; he's so sardonic that I get to have a lot of fun crafting his dialogue. But I also love how blunt and down to earth the Black Thorn is, and digging into his old war stories is always a good laugh. So... no. I don't think I could pick a favourite.
I don't know that I could pick a favorite either, although I must say that T'ruck is a pleasure to read.
You started as a self-published author, signed a deal with a publisher, and went back to self publishing. What influenced that decision?
ROB: After a while I had quite a few grievances with the publisher I signed with and they just kept piling up. Between late royalty payments and delayed releases I began to lose confidence in the leadership of those in charge. The straw that broke the camel's back was that they sent an unedited manuscript of Where Loyalties Lie to Audible, so the audio version of that book is not the product I wanted to release. I've been quite vocal and descriptive of all my issues with the publisher so if anyone wants to know the details they can check out my blog posts on the matter.
I think it is worth mentioning that the leadership at the publisher has completely changed since I left, and the new folk in charge do seem to be making steps to fix the issues that both myself, and some of their other authors, have.
In the end though I'm quite happy to go back to self publishing. I like the control I have over everything, and working to my own schedule.
Is there any advice you can give aspiring writers who are trying to decide between self publishing and seeking a more traditional publishing deal? And is there any advice you can give them on writing?
ROB: First thing I'd advise is to do your research, and take into account is that each author is different. Self publishing works for some and not for others, and the same can be said of the more traditional side of things. There are typically more upfront costs involved in self publishing what with having to pay for editing and covers and advertising, but then there's usually more in the way of payment for each book sold as well. Chances are though that by self publishing you will never be able to get the reach capable of a traditional publisher. It really is a case of reading up about the different avenues of publishing and deciding which one works best for you.
I must admit I struggle to give advice on writing. Again it's a case of what works for some people doesn't work for others. I would say the best advice I can give is write lots, read lots, and don't get disheartened by criticism... I'm still working on the latter myself.
Your books have stunning, high quality cover art. Who is your artist, and how are you able to secure such amazing artwork on your own?
ROB: The artwork for most of my books has been done by Alex Raspad, with cover design then handled by Shawn King. They're both excellent and very professional. It was pretty much a case of asking them to do the work. I think covers are often 'you get what you pay for', and as the first part of the book that most readers will see I feel it's worth paying for quality. That being said I know a few authors who do all their own covers and do a hell of a job with it. Unfortunately the extent of my skill in that area is shouting at photoshop because it won't do what I want it to. I have quite rightly decided that cover art and cover design are forms of ancient magic best left to wizards.
Would you tell us a little about the projects you currently have in the works?
ROB: I actually have quite a few projects in the works at the moment, some completed and ready for publishing and others in various stages of completion. I have another First Earth novel, a standalone called City of Kings, releasing next year. It features many of the characters from The Ties that Bind and the whole book takes place over a six day siege of a fortified city. I have a sci-fi noir thriller called Drones, that one is based on the premise of emotions being harvested and sold as a drug. I'm also currently writing an eastern inspired sword and sorcery novel called Never Die, and I have a YA epic fantasy in the works as well.
And at some point I will get around to finishing my First Earth saga books. There's two more series to write in that world before I'm done with it.
And lastly, what is a book or series (outside of your own) that has impacted you, and what book or books do you wish you could convince everyone to read?
There's a whole load of books that have definitely impacted me, but I think I'll go with Robin Hobb's Farseer and Tawny Man trilogies. Never before or since have I connected so emotionally with a book(s) or character. Reading about Fitz and the Fool is like spending time with old friends, and Hobb remains the only author who has ever made me cry at a book.
As for the books I wish everyone else would read... I'll go with Chris Wooding's Tales of the Ketty Jay. They are swashbuckling adventures in a steampunkish world and just so much fun to read. And if everyone in the world had read them I could have endless discussions about a particular scene where a character is involved in a dogfight thousands of feet in the air, while also involved in a fist fight with a cat.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful responses. You made this first interview a great experience for me.
ROB: Thank you. It was fun answering your questions. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
You can visit Rob's official website here.
Where Loyalties Lie, book one of the Best Laid Plans duology, is available for purchase here.
The Fifth Empire of Man, book two of the Best Laid Plans duology, will release on September 26th, 2017. You can preorder your copy here!
David Niall Wilson is the owner and Editor in Chief at Crossroad Press, one of the largest independent publishers currently on the market. He's also the author of 150 short stories, 32 anthology entries, and over a dozen novels. David has written novels for Vampire: The Dark Ages, Star Trek: Voyager, Stargate SG-1, and is a Bram Stoker winner. We're very lucky to have him talk with us here.